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Nightsky

Californian Alyssa Campanella describes herself as “a huge history geek”, with particular interest in Tudor and Stuart England (my sister would LOVE her), and “a science geek”. (In fact, she was one of exactly two contestants to unequivocally support teaching science in science classes.)  She watches “Game of Thrones” and “Camelot”, and is a lifelong fan of Star Wars

 

One more datum: she’s just been crowned Miss USA.

 

Quiz time!  Did the ancient and honourable society of geeks:

  1. call her a poser?
  2. confidently assert that she didn’t know anything about her areas of interest?
  3. openly lament that, damn, “geek” used to mean something? or
  4. all of the above?

Yes, Ms. Campanella’s crown had no sooner settled on her brow than dark murmurings began to circulate on the Internet about her lack of geek cred.  Geeky women have always faced this double standard--that a guy geek is a geek on his say-so, but women have to prove their geek bona fides to skeptical guy geeks--but it seems particularly obvious (and cruel) in Alyssa’s case.  Here’s some comments from the USA Today article:

Doubt very much she's into history for the history, and just as she admits the fantasy part, she would like to be the 'damsel in distress' and becomes queen.

She could have just said she like medieval style stories but that doesn't sound as good. I doubt she really understands what "geeky" is if she thinks watching HBO shows is geeky.

LOL @ referring to sensationalist television soaps as history. Has she read a history book? What a joke to refer to yourself as a history buff because you watch TV.

[n.b.: She specifically mentioned her love of history books in the article itself.]

So there you have it, women: if you can rock a bikini, you’re not a geek.

 

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UberWench
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written by UberWench, June 22, 2011
Well said. That is the most ridiculous thing - being a geek means you have to look a certain way. BS. Complete and utter BS.
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girl geek extraordinaire
written by Katie, June 23, 2011
This reminds me of Entertainment Weekly's review for the most recent Star Trek movie: "While it drew an expected crowd mostly composed of older males, Star Trek's solid-A grade shows that word of mouth could be strong enough to bring in fans outside of the franchise's usual demographic (i.e., people who weren't alive in the 1980s...and women) as the weeks go on."

Right, because the ONLY people who like Star Trek are men born before 1980. Why do people persist with such ridiculous stereotypes in this day and age? My mom was going to Star Trek cons back in the 60s, and is as big a geek as any guy out there. So I hope Miss USA keeps flying her geek flag, there are plenty of women out there cheering her on!
A Nonny Mouse
Sadly...
written by A Nonny Mouse, June 23, 2011
This is not a new thing. After all, haven't we discussed time and time again how us geek girls (regardless of what we look like) have to justify our geek cred? We're only allowed to be at ComicCon if we like certain "acceptable" fandoms otherwise we're just posers thinking we're cool. Geek!Boys should at all times try and "educate" girls on proper fandoms and geekery. God forbid a girl be better at D&D or LOTR:CCG or any other "geeky" game. *rolls eyes*

Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled as hell that Miss USA is a major geek. I think it helps break the stereotype that pretty women are morons and smart girls are ugly. Here's a woman that is beautiful AND smart! Something we all know, but society at large tends to forget about.
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written by Jawnita, June 29, 2011
[here from your link in the comments at Geek Feminism]

Yes, thank you. I am so frickin' sick of geek cred policing. (The one that always makes me sad: you're not a "real geek" if your geekdom isn't computer programming, etc.) You'd *think* geeks would be a little more inclusive.
Pearce
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written by Pearce, June 30, 2011
smilies/tongue.gif Not a real geek if you can rock a bikini?

Crap...I guess I'm out.
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Down That Same Old Road Again
written by knomadd, July 01, 2011
I had written something along loosely relating to this back when the NYT "Game of Thrones" debacle went down.

Problem I have is that I suffer from a similar "double standard". I am a male, of roughly average build (ages ago former bar bouncer & rugby player), and in my mid 30s. I don't like sports (although I have played them as stated), cars, hunting, porn, or any of the other so-called "normal" guy things that I am supposed to. The few other geeks that were about when I was growing up assumed that I was not one of them because I didn't look the part. It took years, and multiple debates about various comic book characters and creators, for me to finally find some level of acceptance.

These days, among my small circle of friends I have become something of an "alpha-nerd". I think some of that stems from my having to struggle so much earlier on.

I guess my point is, it's not just the girls, ladies, and women that have to deal with this. I just wanted to point that out.
Nightsky
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written by Nightsky, July 01, 2011
Oh, certainly--anecdotal evidence among the non-white geeks I know suggests that they have the same problem of people policing their geek cred--stereotypes are pernicious, and the sooner we start seeing geeks of all kinds, the better.

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